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I’ve been working this one all day, John. It’s been something to put together. It’s from a video on Facebook. And there were subtitles provided at the bottom that helped. But with many typing errors!
But I thought it was so interesting, I wanted to get it out.
Apollo Moon Landing Hoax:
Stanley Kubricks Interview
Interviewer: It is about a future movie or something coming out or No.
Stanley: Okay It’s not about any movie. It’s not about the movies I’ve made in the past. A confession of sorts.
Interviewer: Okay. I mean about you cheated on your wife. You played your eyes.
Stanley: No would never do that. No. It’s about a movie I made that nobody is aware of even though they’ve seen it. Okay. Is that intriguing? Do I have you intrigued?
Interviewer: It’s about a movie you made no one knew you made. Is that what you said?
Stanley: I perpetrated a huge fraud which I am now about to detail. Involving the United States government and NASA. And I’m sure you’ve heard the rumors.
Interviewer: The moon, the moon landing?
Stanley: That’s right. That the moon landing was fake. The moon landed moon landings all were fake and I was a the person who filmed it.
Interviewer: You’re serious
Stanley: I’m serious and okay. I’m dead serious. The conspiracy theorists were right on this occasion. Why? I don’t know about Paul McCartney’s death but this they were right about.
Interviewer: Okay, Why in god’s name? Why the hell if you’re telling the truth would you do it? Why are you telling me? I mean, what the.
Stanley: Don’t you think it’s important for the people to know the truth? A massive fraud, unparalleled perpetrated against them. They should know. Okay. Um, I mean they’re already suspicious of the government. They may as well have suspicions confirmed.
Interviewer: Okay, Justified. And this why now? I mean we’re almost at the 30 year anniversary. Uh what took so long?
Stanley: It has to do with personal. Okay. Uh of evolution and influences.
Interviewer: It that why you look a little haggard right now? No offense. Cuz you look a little worn.
Stanley: Well also yeah because I haven’t been taking care of myself too well. I’ve been drinking a lot.
Interviewer: Is that because of the stress of this?
Stanley: Of course, stress, guilt, just conflict of all kinds.
Interviewer: Wow. I mean, so you feel bad about this clearly.
Stanley: I do feel bad about it. I also feel proud of it. It’s a terrible conflict.
Interviewer: Cuz you’ve pulled off one of greatest hoaxes ever.
Stanley: And because I made a film, if you want to call it a film which I consider to be my masterpiece.
Interviewer: And you can’t take credit or even talk about it.
Stanley: I am now hereby now taking credit for it.
Interviewer: Right. But you can’t actually go out. When people see this you’ll be dead. Right. So you can’t talk to Roger Ebert about it you know. Does that frustrate you?
Stanley: I have to pay the consequences for the decision that I made many years ago to go along with this.
Interviewer: Like a deal with the devil. It’s Faustian to be sure. Because and is that why you got such power in Hollywood. That would explain that.
Stanley: Why I have the freedom I have. That was part of it, yes.
So they said do this moon thing and when I made Spartacus I didn’t have this kind of freedom. But I have it now.
Interviewer: So what came first? The genius or the fraud? I mean did the fraud enable the genius or did the genius release that fraud?
Stanley: I think the genius came first. But some frauds are hard to bypass especially if you have an ego and you’re an artist and you’re presented with a challenge the likes of which you’ve neve seen and will probably never see again. You don’t even think of the morality of it. You’re just completely swept away by the flattery of it and the juices inside you which make which make you want to do it. You don’t think of anything else.
Interviewer: Tell me about the making of it. So was it difficult?
I mean committing the greatest fraud, whatever you want to call it. I’m not making any moral judgement. But making this huge ambitious technical foe landing. Was it very difficult? I mean what was the experience like? Artistically, practically, emotionally what?
Was that like harder than 2001? So 2001 was harder than making the moon landing?
Stanley: It actually was because you learned things on 2001. And yes, I mean 2001 was very ambitious. And that’s not to say that faking the moon landing was not ambitious.
Yeah, I learned things making 2001, which is why I got this gig in the first place.
It was easy for me because, first of all, I didn’t think a whole lot about the morality of it as I said. If I had , I might have been more hesitant. More stifled in my work.
But I didn’t and I could see that Neil was actually bothered by it more than Buzz.
Interviewer: More than Buzz Aldrin or anyone else involved?
Stanley: Yes, everything was going to center around him. He was the one who was supposed to come down off the ladder and announce the step for mankind. One small step for man. One giant leap for mankind!
He sensed that this was going to be a life-changing experience for him and I mean on a major scale. Uh, actually he was tortured by this the rest of his life.
In fact, that actually began to affect my own perception of it. Watching what happened to him.
Interviewer: Okay. In what way? Just seeing the deterioration of him and I mean was he depressed or?
Stanley: He was depressed. He was drinking heavily. Bitter, scared! Just phobic avoiding people.
Interviewer: And that guy Bart Sibrell or somebody tried again to get him to swear on a Bible.
Stanley: I mean when I say he affected me that’s why there was so much time in between films for me. Between Full Metal Jacket and well, between The Shining and Full Metal Jacket was about six years. Between Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut is thirteen years. Yeah, a lot of that of that time was spent just!
Interviewer: Like just emotionally processing?
Stanley: Yes, it became very conflicting for me. I was proud of my work but at the same time, because of Neil’s influence. Not consciously. He didn’t do this to me consciously, but I spent a lot of time with him and each time I did, I became more and more bothered by my own participation in this.
Interviewer: Okay. Well, what would he say? Would he explain his depression?
Stanley: He was on the verge of tears. He did not cry. I won’t say he cried, but he was on the verge of tears so many times because of what he did. I mean, What he participated in. It’s almost as if he thought of the idea. You know? He felt like he was almost used really. But he’s the one who felt the guilt. I’m sure NASA did not feel that much guilt.
Interviewer: And I mean why did he do it? I wonder. I wonder why.
Stanley: Cuz they promised him a seat in three years when they figured it out. They kept lying about it being possible.
Interviewer: They kept saying we’ll be ready in three years and you’ll go then. Just lie now,
We’ll go in three years. The funding will keep going and we’ll figure it out and you’ll go.
Stanley: Right yeah.
Interviewer: So why did Armstrong go? I mean he’s been such a moral principal man . Why would he go on a fake moon mission?
Stanley: Well, because they strung him along. They led him to believe, oh don’t worry! We’re going to have the money in a few years and we’ll actually go and then you will go.
Interviewer: You mean they’ll have the technology?
Stanley: Yes, they will be able to actually perform miracle of going to the moon and yes he would be in the saddle.
Interviewer: Okay, lets be clear. Kennedy set a deadline, Psychological deadline of the sixties. They knew they couldn’t beat it. And if they did, they sincerely thought they would be getting there in a few years.
Stanley: I believe, yes. They did think so. Although some did think, there was a difference of opinion, that we will never be able to get there. There’s no chance.
Interviewer: Some people didn’t believe that you could go either?
Stanley: Well, Werner Von Braun, of course, didn’t. The director didn’t think so. The man was just to brilliant. He knew that we couldn’t do it.
Interviewer: So okay I’m talking about a guy working on two lost causes. The Nazism and you know the quest for the moon. And did he ever tell them. Did he tell the president we can’t go? I mean he must have broke the news.
Stanley: He was very old, of course, at the time and a lot of people just dismissed him.
Younger more ambitious people just dismissed him. But some of them really thought that we could get there. Or wanted to believe it. Maybe on a conscious level they knew we couldn’t. But they just wanted to believe the impossible because they were so full of themselves.
Interviewer: And so full of the dream.
Stanley: Yes, the dream was very powerful.
Interviewer: And that’s what beguiled Armstrong. Here the stand up guy and he didn’t want to be part of the lie, but he knew he’d get a seat if he played ball on when they actually did go up. But that day never came obviously.
Stanley: That day never came.
Interviewer: And what did that do to him?
Stanley: It gradually destroyed him I think. He deteriorated. Yeah, like I said he drank a lot. He was full of self recrimination and so was I. Well, mainly from his influence. It was almost like I caught it from him.
Stanley: I talked to him one last time before his death and promised to get this news out. It was too great.
He had said to me, you’re a media guy. You gotta tell the truth one day. He urged me to tell the truth. He couldn’t because of reasons that he was a government employee his whole life and he had government pension. And here He said, I am a millionaire and you could afford to Stanley. To tell the truth.
Interviewer: And that’s why you’re doing this 15 years from now. That’s why you’re not announcing this on CNN. Because you’re going to honor his wish, but you’re not ready for it now to come out. And this is your reason for me.
Because you want to be dead. Your wife will probably be dead and your kids will be grown.
You want to distance from your legacy from this truth.
Stanley Kubrick died March 7th, 1999 at 70 years old
Why has nobody been to the moon since!
Thanks so much for sharing this interview, Lisa! I have read stories through the years that Kubrick was behind the studio works that faked the Apollo photographic records. Whoever was behind the fakery left quite a few photographic errors behind that forensic experts have had a collective field day with for decades.